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Noun1 も Noun1 なら、Noun2 も Noun2 だ

Criticizes two parties as equally bad; 'A is bad, and B is no better'.

At a glance

Noun1 も Noun1 なら、Noun2 も Noun2 だ criticizes two related people or groups at the same time: "A is bad, and B is no better." It is used when both sides are to blame.

Noun1 も Noun1 なら、Noun2 も Noun2 だ。

親おやも親おやなら、子こも子こだ。 The parents are bad, and the kids are no better.


How to form it

The same noun is repeated in each half. The nouns are usually two related parties.

Part What goes in Example
Noun1 も Noun1 なら The first party, said twice 親おやも親おやなら
Noun2 も Noun2 だ The second party, said twice 子こも子こだ
Polite ending だ → です 子こも子こです
With a modifier A clause can describe the noun 約束やくそくを忘わすれる彼かれも彼かれなら

It attaches to nouns only. It is usually used in plain form.

Examples

  • 君きみも君きみなら、私わたしも私わたしだ。

    You were wrong, and so was I.

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